<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5090403.post6678934237183656348..comments</id><updated>2008-02-28T12:28:35.506-07:00</updated><category term='education'/><category term='myth'/><category term='progressivism'/><category term='discourse'/><category term='utah'/><category term='books'/><category term='rights'/><category term='immigration'/><category term='shopping'/><category term='change'/><category term='community'/><category term='competition'/><category term='garden'/><category term='environment'/><category term='colorado'/><category term='alternative energy'/><category term='debate'/><category term='parks'/><category term='evolution'/><category term='product'/><category term='salt lake city'/><category term='election 2008'/><category term='taxes'/><category term='hiking'/><category term='affiliate'/><category term='planning'/><category term='tips'/><category term='projection'/><category term='computer'/><category term='attempt at humor'/><category term='internet'/><category term='un'/><category term='tea party'/><category term='dining'/><category term='fisa'/><category term='coins'/><category term='microstock'/><category term='blogs'/><category term='Constitution'/><category term='science'/><category term='shorting'/><category term='math'/><category term='business'/><category term='mideast'/><category term='java'/><category term='law'/><category term='logic'/><category term='perspective'/><category term='php'/><category term='paradox'/><category term='programming'/><category term='politics'/><category term='culture'/><category term='shared equity financing'/><category term='music'/><category term='nullification'/><category term='reason'/><category term='witch hunt'/><category term='progressive science'/><category term='philosophy'/><category term='property rights'/><category term='rich theory'/><category term='book'/><category term='propaganda'/><category term='state&apos;s rights'/><category term='photo'/><category term='economics'/><category term='housing'/><category term='denver'/><category term='twitter'/><category term='textbooks'/><category term='dialectics'/><category term='healthcare'/><category term='html'/><category term='insurance'/><category term='mathematics'/><category term='flowers'/><category term='debt'/><category term='web sites'/><category term='health'/><category term='capitalism'/><category term='lds'/><title type='text'>Comments on y-intercept blog: Why</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/feeds/6678934237183656348/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/6678934237183656348/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/2008/02/why.html'/><author><name>y-intercept</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03389285761013186443</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_xy5TMR1KDV8/SHhxfNRD9ZI/AAAAAAAAAAM/KZNsVHtLrGo/S220/DCP_7611.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>4</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5090403.post-3667453613967190280</id><published>2008-02-28T12:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-02-28T12:28:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Raymond,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What you described as "critical th...</title><content type='html'>Raymond,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What you described as "critical thinking" is precisely what people were doing in traditional analysis.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This tradtional analysis was the foundation of education from the Middle Ages through to the modern era.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The foundation of classical education was a thing called "The Trivium." The three legs of the Trivium are grammar, logic and rhetoric. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The foundations of classical education was to give students the tools to be able to see and discuss issues from multiple perspectives.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The critical thinking in vogue today simply makes buzz words out of what traditional education actually accomplishes.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for your observation that you were not taught logic in primary or high school:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yes, this is exactly the problem. The left wing Dewey revolution and the NEA yanked logic out of the classroom. They replaced the study of logic with this absurdity called "critical thinking."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This buzzword "Critical Thinking" came in vogue during the process of removing the classes that taught critical thinking skills from the classroom.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yes, I believe that you went to a public school that did not teach logic. This transition took place about 75 years ago.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There are only a few private schools that continue to teach informal logic as part of primary education.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If Utah voted for the voucher law, a larger number of students would be learning real critical thinking skills (i.e., logic). It is sad.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/6678934237183656348/comments/default/3667453613967190280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/6678934237183656348/comments/default/3667453613967190280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/2008/02/why.html?showComment=1204226880000#c3667453613967190280' title=''/><author><name>y-intercept</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03389285761013186443</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='09118802709738905376'/><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://hikinglog.com/images/2004/DCP_7611.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/2008/02/why.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5090403.post-6678934237183656348' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/posts/default/6678934237183656348' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1629704872'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5090403.post-1347619230980549155</id><published>2008-02-21T09:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-02-21T09:46:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>"I had a progressive education. In my progressive ...</title><content type='html'>"I had a progressive education. In my progressive education, I was taught a propaganda technique called "Critical Thinking." The idea behind critical thinking is to criticize American culture, the free market and people on the right. Being hypercritical of America is supposed to somehow lead to social justice and progress."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;First, I certainly did not have the same education as you.  Critical thinking, in any form, was not taught in my school. It may have led to a questioning of authority. Rather, my education (high schoool in particular)was centered around doing what you were told and no asking why?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But I think critical thinking is not simply anti-American propoganda.  And, as I may have a different view of this concept, I define critical thinking as: using reasoning and logic to examine a problem from multiple perspectives to develop evidence to suggest a possible mode of action and/or discover the best ends to pursue.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Many times I've been asked, "Why do you hate America," or "Don't you think America is the best country?" The answer is I love America and I think we're one of the best countries ever constructed (I find it difficult to say we're number one for various reasons) but I always tell the people asking me these questions, "I just think we can always do better." This, I think, is the argument for critical thinking.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You argue, "The idea behind critical thinking is to criticize American culture, the free market and people on the right." But it seems necessary to be able to find faults in our society and culture in order to make it better. It seems positively unamerican to simply believe everything is great and cannot be impoved. Being hyercritical of American may be overkill, but being critical of America is most certainly the first step to obtaining social justice and making progress.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;E.g., if one I desire to be a better writer the first step I must take it to be critical of my writing. If I simply think I am great I may become a better writer as I write more but not the writer I could be if I find the things that most need improved - a discovery that can only come through critical thinking, so it seems to me.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/6678934237183656348/comments/default/1347619230980549155'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/6678934237183656348/comments/default/1347619230980549155'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/2008/02/why.html?showComment=1203612360000#c1347619230980549155' title=''/><author><name>Raymond Sebond</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17161129819285130208</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/2008/02/why.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5090403.post-6678934237183656348' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/posts/default/6678934237183656348' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1358394863'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5090403.post-4593321684560031007</id><published>2008-02-18T12:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-02-18T12:46:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I think there is a great deal of value for individ...</title><content type='html'>I think there is a great deal of value for individuals to write about national and international politics. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The writing produced, however, is less valuable than the writing that encourages people to look at area where they live.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It is perfectly fine for a flow of conscious blog to be on whatever. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;People who are writing blogs with the idea that the blog would affect change would do better blogging about local charities. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;BTW, I've read good portions of the &lt;A HREF="http://communitycolor.com/blogs.html" REL="nofollow"&gt;350 blogs&lt;/A&gt; referenced on my directory, and I am finding no one talking about the many charities and local organizations that really make our communities go 'round.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In contrast the first round of "homepages" that appeared on net last decade had tons of local. Today, they don't. Something seems to have changed for the worse.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The lack of local posts made me feel obliged to explain why I personally don't have many posts on local doings. The question really is "Why am I such a hypocrite?"</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/6678934237183656348/comments/default/4593321684560031007'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/6678934237183656348/comments/default/4593321684560031007'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/2008/02/why.html?showComment=1203363960000#c4593321684560031007' title=''/><author><name>y-intercept</name><uri>http://communitycolor.com</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/2008/02/why.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5090403.post-6678934237183656348' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/posts/default/6678934237183656348' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1334986195'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5090403.post-771425474271830260</id><published>2008-02-18T10:32:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-02-18T10:32:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I disagree that blogging about national politics i...</title><content type='html'>I disagree that blogging about national politics is unneeded.  I blog to get a better grasp on what I actually think and why I think it.  Writing forces me to parse things out.  It helps me to drop less useful philosophies and develop more useful philosophies.  I learn much be reading.  I learn even more by writing, even if no one else read what I write.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/6678934237183656348/comments/default/771425474271830260'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/6678934237183656348/comments/default/771425474271830260'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/2008/02/why.html?showComment=1203355920000#c771425474271830260' title=''/><author><name>Reach Upward</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11831447472339880148</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://www.usa-flag-site.org/images/american_flag.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.yintercept.com/2008/02/why.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5090403.post-6678934237183656348' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5090403/posts/default/6678934237183656348' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1662686316'/></entry></feed>
